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Islamator on: The bizarre trinity of the Koran. (Part 2)

(... continued)

After this meeting

error Islamator and after the recall history of the progressive construction of the Trinity (see Part 1) We will if God wants to enter the subject to answer questions raised Islamator.

But first, it should be noted some facts about the Qur'an:

- for us Muslims, the Qur'an is the final revelation of God is the word of God has sent his last prophet and Messenger, which comes from the seed of Abraham, Mohamed peace and blessings be upon him. Revelation transmitted through the angel Gabriel, peace on him.

- The Qur'an was not revealed because of Christianity as implies Islamator. It has not been revealed for the sole purpose of correcting Christianity.
The Quran is the last will. The final revelation and the only destiny for all humanity unlike other previous revelations. God has decreed that He would reveal the Koran before the creation of the world.


After this brief we will insist on one essential point:

The Koran has a clear and well defined. It is a report facts and present a doctrine. All what the Koran refers is the Truth and all that contradicts the Quranic Truth is therefore dismissed. Indeed, the Qur'an says of itself:

- Surah 2:

the name of Allah, Most Gracious, Most Merciful.

1. Alif, Lam, Mim.

2. This is the Scripture whereof there is NO doubt, a guidance for the righteous.


- Surah 11:

17. "... Do not be in doubt about this (the Quran). Yes, it is the TRUTH from thy Lord, but most people do not. "


As evidenced by the verses of the Quran itself says that it is the book on which there is no doubt there is Truth.

- Prophet Mohammad (PBUH ) said:

"If you ask the People of the Book-of-way inevitable then consider which agrees with the Book of God and accept it, and anything that contradicts the Book of God reject the . "(al-Musannaf , 6 / 112)

All this contradicts Therefore the Koran is regarded by it as FALSE!
The Koran does not need to condemn a doctrine for it to be rejected. If it contradicts the Koran it is automatically rejected by Muslims.
If the Quran was to refute and condemn all false doctrines of the world, this is more a book of God would be but an entire library. It is this approach
Koranic qu'Islamator seems to ignore.

On the Trinity, God in the Quran has adopted an educational approach that is to avoid conviction and strong offensive text to describe precisely the people who up the Trinity. The Koran denies the Trinity by revealing the true nature of the persons who compose it. (divine persons as the Trinity)

- Let's see what the Koran says people of Trinidad:

Surah 3:

45. (Remember,) when the angels said: O Mary, God gives you good news here is that a word from Him: his name will the Messiah, Jesus son of Mary, illustrious down here as in the Hereafter, and one closer to God. "

49. and will be the messenger to the children of Israel , [and will say]: "Verily I come to you with a Sign from your Lord. For you, I kind of like clay figure of a bird, and breathe into it and by God's permission , it becomes a bird. And I heal those born blind and the lepers and I quicken the dead, by God's permission. And I tell you what you eat and what you store in your houses. This is a warning sign for you, if ye believe!

51. God is my Lord and your Lord . So worship Him: this is the right path. "

59. For God, Jesus is like Adam He created him from dust, then He said "Be" and he was.

- Surah 5:

75 - Messiah son of Mary, WAS JUST A MESSENGER. Messengers have gone before him. And his mother was a truthful. And both ate food. See how We explain the evidence and then see how they turn away.

The Koran is clear about Jesus. He is a messenger of God, a being created in the same way that Adam was created. And he can not do anything without God's permission.
This clearly contradicts the Christian doctrine of the Trinity.

- Surah 2:

87 - And We indeed gave Moses the Book and We sent after him a succession of Messengers. And We gave Jesus the son of Mary, and We have strengthened the Holy Spirit (Gabriel). Is it that whenever a messenger bringing you truths contrary to your wishes you enfliez of pride? Some ye disbelieve and you to kill others.

- Surah 16:

102. Say: "The Holy Spirit [Gabriel] who was sent down from thy Lord in truth to strengthen [the faith] of those who believe and as a guide and a good Tidings to Muslims.
- Surah 26:

192. This (Quran), it's the Lord of the universe who has revealed,

193. and the True Spirit descended with it

194. on your heart, that thou mayest be of the warners,

- Surah 78:

38. The day the Spirit and the angels stand in ranks, no one will talk , except one to whom the Merciful has given permission, and who speaks the truth.


The Qur'an presents the Holy Spirit (the Muslim tradition identifies Gabriel peace be upon him) as a to serve God. It accurately conveys the revelation of God, and even the angels can not speak with the permission of God.
This vision of the Holy Spirit contradict the Trinity considers God Almighty.


- Surah 5:

110 - And when Allah say: " O Jesus, son of Mary , remember My blessing to you and to your mother when I reinforced you with the HOLY SPIRIT . The cradle you spoke to people, just like in your Mature. I taught you the Book and Wisdom, the Torah and the Gospel! you made out of clay as a form of a bird by My permission, and you breathed into it. So, by My leave, she became a bird. And you healed by My leave, the man born blind and the leper. And by My leave, you brought forth the dead. cons I withheld the children of Israel while you came to them with evidence. But those of them who disbelieved said "This is nothing but clear enchantment.

This verse is very interesting! Why? All
simply because the three persons of the Trinity are present.
Allah is God, He sent the Holy Spirit, one of his creature in his service to his messenger Jesus fortified.
Allah also has all taught that Jesus could do no miracle without permission.

The Qur'an therefore clearly contradicts the doctrine of the Trinity. It presents the three persons of the Trinity Christian completely different way. The Quran and the Trinity are incompatible.
As the Quran is the book on which there is NO doubt (Quran 2:2) the Trinity that can not be dismissed.

It is this approach and method Koranic qu'Islamator did not understand and leads to falsely conclude that the "author" of the Koran did not know the Trinity.

But then the attentive reader may legitimately ask the question: Why are found in the Koran condemnation of certain trinities heretics?

(CONTINUED Part3)

Ibn Karim.

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