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Islamator Response to: The Trinity wacky the Koran. (Part 1) Response to

We will, God willing, to analyze the following article Islamator:



http://islamator.skynetblogs.be/archive/2010/07/05/la-trinite-farfelue-du-coran. html # comments



To summarize, Islamator the following questions: Why


the Koran does not speak and only condemns minority Trinity (Father, Son, Mother) rejected by the Church and considered by it as a heresy?

Why does not speak clearly of the Trinity is currently majority (Father, Son, SE)?


Islamator deduces So the "author" of the Koran did not know the Trinity (Father, Son, SE)!

Therefore the Koran can not come from God who knows absolutely everyone.


Answer:


Before addressing the subject, it is important to note a historic mistake committed by Islamator in his article.

This error shows his ignorance about his own religion.

Ignorance is not a wrong. " It is rather to persist in ignorance and being judged or even knowing who is wrong.


Let's see the error of Islamator, indeed it says in his article:


"the doctrine of the Trinity was finally and clearly formulated in about 325 AD at the Council of Nicaea in the Nicene Creed. "


But this is WRONG! The doctrine of the Trinity has never been fully and finally formulated at the Council of Nicaea,

It took three councils very controversial for the Trinity is more or less defined.



- The First Council of Nicaea in 325.


Held in 325, the first ecumenical council was convened by Constantine I er, emperor of Rome, to resolve the divisions between Christians and unify Christianity. these doctrinal divisions threatened the political stability of the empire. It is important to note that at this council, Constantine was still a pagan ! It was converted to Christianity on his deathbed in 337. He therefore had a political interest: the faster unified Christianity to calm the tensions between different branches of Christianity. On
1800 bishops of the Roman Empire, 318 attended the council. The first meetings have been fruitless. Constantine then intervened to force the decision-décision.Parmi Results of this council is quoted:

- The Nicene Creed, which sets the Son as consubstantial with the Father, was adopted as representing the official position of the Church on the divinity of Christ.

- the celebration of Easter was shifted to Sunday after the Jewish Passover

- was given to the bishop of Alexandria, an authority on the East similar to the quasi-patriarchal authority of Rome but was not , as it has sometimes been claimed, equal to the pope. Such was the origin of patriarchy, which appeared in the Church. Many Christians
have denied the Son consubstantial with the Father he felt blasphemous and contrary to the teachings of Jesus.
A harsh repression against them engaged! (See eg Eunomians, Anoméens, Ariens, Sabellianism, Marceliens, Apollinaris)

You will notice that here we do not yet speak of Trinidad contrary to what Islamator.
is not even talking yet the Holy Spirit as God. Indeed it took another council for the deification of Holy Spirit is proclaimed: The Council of Constantinople.


- The Council of Constantinople: 380 to 381.


Second Ecumenical Council of the Church, he was called by Theodosius I, Roman emperor. there were about one hundred fifty bishops present at the council, the main results of this council were:


heresy-Imposition of several religious sects, including Arian and Manichean-

reaffirmation of the resolutions adopted at the Council Nicea I (325 ).

-definition of the Holy Spirit as consubstantial with the Father and the Son.

-proclamation as the bishop Constantinople was second after the Bishop of Rome in the pecking order.

So it was not until the Council of Constantinople that the Holy Spirit was deified! But that's not all over yet, because another point central dogma of Christianity was bare formulate clear until much later, at the Council of Chalcedon.


- Council of Chalcedon: in 451.


The Council of Chalcedon is the fourth Ecumenical Council and took place in 451 in the church of St. Euphemia namesake city. Convened by the Byzantine Emperor Marcian and his wife Empress Pulcherie he meets from October 8 451 343 bishops.
The council condemned the Monophysite, doctrine that Jesus Christ would have possessed only one nature, divine and human nature would not. The Chalcedonian definition, based on the formulation of Pope Leo in his Tome to Flavian, bishop of Constantinople, and the synodical letters of St. Cyril of Alexandria, to Nestor, asserted that Christ had one nature, both divine and human, inseparable in him.
It was during this council that is redefined the notion of person:

- As the principle of differentiation relational in the mystery of a God both one and three, (three equal and different, but one God).


- As the principle of unity and identity, in the case of the two natures in the person of Christ
single

The council added a last layer so important to doctrine of the Trinity. We can say that it is from this council that the Trinity was more or less defined. It dalleur why Trinity Christian composed of the Father, Son and Holy Spirit is called: The Trinity of Chalcedon.


So, after this historical important affirmation of Islamator: the doctrine of the Trinity was finally and clearly formulated in about 325 AD at the Council of Nicaea in the Nicene Creed. Is completely erroneous and false.

We see instead that the Trinity and the major Christian doctrines were established centuries after Jesus gradually, motivated by political interest and evoking strong opposition.

If the Trinity was truly a Bible teaching, whether it was really the faith of the apostles and early Christians, why is it took 5 centuries and three councils to define more or less clear?!

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Ibn Karim.

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